"Martha, Martha, you are anxious and worried about many things. There is need of only one thing." Lk 10:41-42
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7rgOgDDwsqhYxrYmE6fVK4?si=90wdVhdoQNChGlNnofZOsQ&utm_source=copy-link
About 57 min: "You get rapidly into the fault's on both sides arguments which paralyzes western response. There isn't fault on both sides, there's fault on one side."
I really liked this podcast episode.
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